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THIRTEENTH DISPUTATION. On the food of the carnivorous animals while they were in the Ark.
DECIMATERTIA DISPUTATIO. De victu animalium carnivororum, dum ea fuerunt in Arca.
SED illud hoc loco non extra controversiam est: animalia quae tantum sunt carnivora, qui cibo usa sint dum in Arca fuerunt? Nam nec alio cibo quam carnibus aliorum animalium vesci et ali potuisse, nec alia tamen animalia praeter numerum a Deo definitum fuisse videntur in Arcam introducta. Hanc ipsam quaestionem ponit ac brevissime solvit Beatus Augustinus libro primo Quaestionum super Genesim, quaestione sexta: Quaeritur, inquit, quomodo in Arca leones et aquilae, quae consueverunt carnibus vivere, pasci potuerint. Utrum et animalia praeter illum numerum propter aliorum escam fuerint intromissa; an aliqua (praeter carnes, quod magis credendum est) a Noë viro sapiente, vel Deo demonstrante, provisa sint quae talium animantium escis convenirent. Sic ibi.
But this is not, in this place, beyond controversy: what food did the animals that are only carnivorous use while they were in the Ark? For they seem to have been able to be fed and nourished by no other food than the flesh of other animals, and yet no other animals beyond the number defined by God seem to have been brought into the Ark. This very question St. Augustine poses and most briefly solves, in the first book of Questions on Genesis, question six: “It is asked,” he says, “how in the Ark the lions and eagles, which are accustomed to live on flesh, could be fed. Whether animals beyond that number were also brought in for the food of others; or whether something (besides flesh — which is rather to be believed) was provided by Noah, a wise man, or by God's showing, which would suit the food of such living creatures.” So there.1
Sed idem paulo distinctius ac dilucidius hanc ipsam quaestionem enodat in libro 15 de Civit. Dei, cap. ultimo: Solet, inquit, movere nonnullos genera escarum quae illic habere poterant animalia quae non nisi carnibus vesci putantur — utrum praeter illum numerum ibi fuerint sine transgressione mandati, quae aliorum alendorum necessitas illic coegisset includi; an vero (quod potius est credendum) praeter carnes aliqua alimenta esse potuerunt quae omnibus convenirent. Novimus enim quam multa animalia, quibus caro cibus est, frugibus promiscue vescantur, et maxime ficis atque castaneis. Quid ergo mirum si vir ille sapiens et iustus, etiam divinitus admonitus quid cuique congrueret sine carnibus, aptam cuique generi alimoniam praeparavit et recondidit? Quid est autem quo vesci non cogeret fames? Aut quid non suave et salubre facere posset Deus, qui etiam ut sine cibo viveret divina facilitate donaret, nisi ut pascerentur, etiam hoc implendae figurae tanti mysterii conveniret? Haec Augustinus.
But the same [Augustine] unravels this very question a little more distinctly and clearly in book 15 of The City of God, the last chapter: “It is wont,” he says, “to trouble some, the kinds of food which the animals that are thought to feed only on flesh could have had there — whether [animals] beyond that number were there, without transgression of the command, which the necessity of nourishing the others had compelled to be shut in there; or whether (which is rather to be believed) there could have been, besides flesh, some foods that would suit them all. For we know how many animals, to which flesh is food, feed indiscriminately on crops, and especially on figs and chestnuts. What wonder, then, if that wise and just man, even divinely admonished what would suit each one without flesh, prepared and stored up for each kind a suitable nourishment? And what is there which hunger would not compel [them] to eat? Or what could God not make pleasant and wholesome — who could even grant by his divine facility that [they] should live without food — except that [the fact] that they were fed was also fitting for the fulfilling of the figure of so great a mystery?” This [says] Augustine.2
Quibus verbis quatuor ille tangit propositae quaestionis solutiones: Unam, etiam animalia quae dicuntur carnivora aliquando etiam vesci frugibus, maxime vero ficis et castaneis — haec enim multum explent simul et alunt. Alteram, Noë per scientiam rerum naturalium quam eximie callebat…
By which words he touches on four solutions of the proposed question: One, that even the animals which are called carnivorous sometimes also feed on crops, but especially on figs and chestnuts — for these both fill and nourish much. A second, that Noah, through the knowledge of natural things which he excellently understood…3
…callebat, vel per singularem Dei revelationem, novisse aliqua genera escarum nobis minime nota, quibus etiam carnivora animalia libenter vescerentur et salubriter nutrirentur. Tertia, licet carnivora libentius vescantur carnibus, sed his tamen cum deficiunt, etiam frugibus ac fructibus cogente fame vesci solere. Quartam, Dei omnipotentia factum esse ut carnivora, sine esu carnium et victu aliarum rerum, quoad in Arca fuerunt, vitam sustentare potuerint. Ergo, ut conventus omnium animalium ad Arcam, et placida eorum in Arca commoratio, obsequiumque erga Noë, sic et hoc miraculi loco haberi debere.
…understood, or by a singular revelation of God, knew some kinds of food by no means known to us, on which even carnivorous animals would gladly feed and be wholesomely nourished. The third, that although carnivores feed more gladly on flesh, yet when these [flesh-foods] fail, they are wont, hunger compelling, to feed even on crops and fruits. The fourth, that by the omnipotence of God it came about that the carnivores, without the eating of flesh and the food of other things, could sustain life as long as they were in the Ark. Therefore, just as the assembling of all the animals to the Ark, and their peaceful sojourn in the Ark, and their obedience toward Noah [are held to be miracles], so this too ought to be held in the place of a miracle.4
Haec sententia Augustini communis fere est omnium Doctorum, etiam eorum qui arbitrantur animalia quae nunc sunt carnivora ante diluvium quoque et in exordio mundi fuisse carnivora. Negant tamen isti ea, dum fuerunt in Arca, edisse carnes, sed vel cogente fame, vel speciali Dei providentia, cibatu aliarum escarum esse usa. Caietanus certe, ratus carnivora animalia etiam ante diluvium solita esse carnibus vesci, explanans verba Mosis quae paulo supra exposuimus: Vel necessitatis, inquit, tempus, vel specialis tunc divinae gubernationis efficacia effecit ut etiam animalia carnivora vescerentur vegetabilibus.
This opinion of Augustine is nearly common to all the Doctors, even of those who think that the animals which are now carnivorous were carnivorous also before the flood and at the beginning of the world. Yet these deny that they ate flesh while they were in the Ark, but [say] that, either by compelling hunger or by a special providence of God, they used the food of other provisions. Cajetan certainly, thinking that carnivorous animals were accustomed to feed on flesh even before the flood, explaining the words of Moses which we expounded a little above [says]: “Either the time of necessity, or the efficacy of the special divine governance then [in force], brought it about that even carnivorous animals fed on vegetable things.”5
AT enim contra sensit Origenes, affirmate scribens in hom. 2 super sextum Caput Geneseos animalibus carnivoris comparasse Noë cibum convenientem (id est, carnes aliorum animalium), introducendo in Arcam magnum numerum animalium pertinentium ad cibatum et victum carnivororum. Origeni assensus est et subscripsit Buteo. Firmamentum huius opinionis illud unum est: naturale esse quibusdam animalibus esse tantum carnivora; nemo enim leonem, aquilam vel accipitrem alio cibo atque carnibus uti vidit; quod autem naturale est alicui generi animalium, id ei semper convenit; quae igitur nunc tantum sunt carnivora, ubique atque omni tempore carnivora fuerunt.
But Origen thought the contrary, affirmatively writing in homily 2 on the sixth chapter of Genesis that Noah procured for the carnivorous animals suitable food (that is, the flesh of other animals), by bringing into the Ark a great number of animals pertaining to the feeding and sustenance of the carnivores. Buteo assented to and subscribed to Origen. The one support of this opinion is this: that it is natural to certain animals to be only carnivorous; for no one has seen a lion, an eagle, or a hawk use any other food than flesh; and what is natural to some kind of animals is always suitable to it; those, therefore, that are now only carnivorous were everywhere and at all times carnivorous.6
Verum ad hanc rationem triplex datur responsum. Quidam respondent, licet naturale sit carnivoris vesci carnibus, Dei tamen omnipotentia factum esse ut, quoad ea fuerunt in Arca, sine carnibus viverent et aliis cibis pascerentur. Nam si alia quaedam miracula circa illa animalia et circa ipsam Arcam facta esse a Deo credimus, cur non hoc etiam tunc a Deo factum esse credendum putemus? Alii respondent cibum carnium propterea dici naturalem carnivoris, quod sit is omnium maxime conveniens eorum naturae, et idcirco avide et salubriter ab illis capiatur; non autem eo dici naturalem, quod simpliciter et omnino sit eis necessarius — quemadmodum respirantibus animalibus dicitur respiratio naturalis, non tantum quod sit eis maxime conveniens et utilis, sed etiam quia sit plane necessaria, ut sine ea vitam ducere non possint. Ergo carnivora, cum habere possunt carnes, his tantum vescuntur, posthabitis aliis cibis; sed si habere eas non possint, etiam quibusdam aliis cibis ad explendam famem vescuntur.
But to this argument a threefold answer is given. Some answer that, although it is natural for carnivores to feed on flesh, yet by the omnipotence of God it came about that, as long as they were in the Ark, they lived without flesh and were fed on other foods. For if we believe that certain other miracles were done by God concerning those animals and the Ark itself, why should we not think that this too is to be believed to have then been done by God? Others answer that the food of flesh is called natural to carnivores because it is of all [foods] the most suitable to their nature, and is therefore eagerly and wholesomely taken by them; not, however, that it is called natural because it is simply and entirely necessary to them — just as to breathing animals respiration is called natural, not only because it is most suitable and useful to them, but also because it is plainly necessary, so that without it they cannot lead life. Therefore carnivores, when they can have flesh, feed only on this, other foods being set aside; but if they cannot have it, they feed also on certain other foods to satisfy hunger.7
SED mihi praeter cetera tertium illud responsum placet: naturale ali[quid]…
But to me, beyond the rest, that third answer pleases: that ‘natural’ [is said of] some[thing]…8
…aliquid dici dupliciter: vel quod per se consequitur naturam specificam et fluit ex principiis eius essentialibus, et hoc semper convenit rei nec ullo tempore mutari potest (quemadmodum naturale homini est esse risibilem); vel naturale appellatur quod naturam individualem et corporis temperamentum consequitur. Et quia temperamentum corporis tum variata aetate, tum alias ob causas variatur, hinc accidit ut quod una aliqua aetate naturale est homini, id ei alia in aetate non sit naturale. Naturale enim homini est in infantia non vesci carnibus, sed materno lacte ali; contra tamen evenit adulta iam aetate. Cum igitur vis et praestantia plantarum et ratio temperamenti animalium dissimilis admodum fuerit ante atque post diluvium, nulli debet mirum videri animalibus quae nunc sunt naturaliter carnivora, ante diluvium ex frugibus, herbis et arborum fructibus naturalem fuisse cibum.
…something is called ‘natural’ in two ways: either [that] which follows of itself from the specific nature and flows from its essential principles — and this is always suitable to the thing, nor can it be changed at any time (as it is natural to man to be capable of laughter); or [that] is called natural which follows the individual nature and the temperament of the body. And because the temperament of the body is varied, both by change of age and for other causes, hence it happens that what at one age is natural to man is not natural to him at another age. For it is natural to man in infancy not to feed on flesh, but to be nourished with mother's milk; the contrary, however, happens at adult age. Since, therefore, the force and excellence of plants, and the ratio of the temperament of animals, was quite different before and after the flood, it ought to seem strange to no one that, for the animals which are now naturally carnivorous, before the flood the natural food was from crops, herbs, and the fruits of trees.9
EGO igitur in opinionem Augustini (eadem autem fuit etiam Basilii homil. 11 in Genesim) toto feror assensu. Videor autem mihi tripliciter posse argumentari nullum fuisse in Arca Noë carnivorum animal. Primo, quia nullum ante diluvium fuit animal carnivorum, esusque carnium tam hominibus quam animalibus non nisi post diluvium in usu esse coeptus est. Verum quia hoc non indiligenter disputatum et tractatum a nobis est priori Tomo horum Commentariorum in Genesim, sub finem quarti libri, semel dicta supervacaneum fuerit iterare.
I, therefore, am carried with full assent into the opinion of Augustine (and the same was also that of Basil, homily 11 on Genesis). And I think I can argue in three ways that there was no carnivorous animal in the Ark of Noah. First, because there was no carnivorous animal before the flood, and the eating of flesh, both for men and for animals, began to be in use only after the flood. But because this has been disputed and treated by us not carelessly in the former volume of these Commentaries on Genesis, toward the end of the fourth book, it would be superfluous to repeat what has been once said.10
Deinde numerum omnium animalium quae ingressa sunt in Arcam habemus expresse — nec semel — a Deo praescriptum ac definitum: bina dico ex qualibet specie immundorum, septena vero mundorum, videlicet tam ad conservationem cuiusque speciei tum ad usum sacrificiorum. De animalibus vero ad cibatum carnivororum pertinentibus nulla usquam mentio facta est. Nam quod huic rationi occurrens Buteo ait, eiusmodi animalia comprehensa esse illo generali mandato Dei de omnibus escis in Arcam importandis (cum dixit Noë: Tolles ex omnibus escis quae mandi possunt, et comportabis apud te, et erunt tam tibi quam illis in escam): hoc, inquam, nec fidem facit nec rationem nostram enervat. Mosi enim convenientius erat de animalibus ad cibatum carnivororum comparandis mentionem facere cum praefiniebatur numerus omnium animalium quae introducenda erant in Arcam; praesertim vero cum sequenti Capite 7 saepius fiat mentio et repetatur numerus omnium animalium quae fuerunt in Arca, nec usquam tamen ullum sit verbum de istis animalibus.
Next, we have the number of all the animals that entered the Ark expressly — and more than once — prescribed and defined by God: two, I say, of each species of the unclean, but seven of the clean, namely both for the preservation of each species and for the use of sacrifices. But of animals pertaining to the food of carnivores, no mention is anywhere made. For as to what Buteo, meeting this argument, says — that animals of this kind were comprehended in that general command of God about all foods to be brought into the Ark (when he said to Noah: “Thou shalt take of all foods that can be eaten, and thou shalt lay it up with thee, and it shall be food both for thee and for them”) — this, I say, neither produces conviction nor weakens our argument. For it would have been more fitting for Moses to make mention of animals to be procured for the food of carnivores when the number of all the animals that were to be brought into the Ark was being predefined; especially since in the following chapter 7 mention is more often made, and the number of all the animals that were in the Ark is repeated, and yet nowhere is there any word about those animals [for carnivore food].11
His accedit quod tantus animalium quae alendis omnibus carnivoris in unum annum sufficerent numerus plus nimio opplesset et gravasset Arcam, ingensque fuisset paucorum illorum hominum idemque molestissimus maximeque foedus et sordidus labor, instar lanionum quotidie tot animalia in cibatum carnivororum laniantium et in singulorum mansiones deferentium ac dispensantium: praesertim in Arca per unum annum omnibus ex partibus clausa.
To these is added that so great a number of animals as would suffice to feed all the carnivores for one year would have filled and burdened the Ark more than enough, and it would have been a huge — and likewise most troublesome, and especially foul and squalid — labor for those few men, like butchers daily slaughtering so many animals for the food of the carnivores, and carrying and dispensing [them] into the dwellings of the individual [beasts]: especially in an Ark closed on all sides for one year.12
Translator’s notes
- §103. The carnivore-food question, with Augustine's brief solution. Margin: Augustine. ↩
- Augustine, City of God, bk. 15, last ch., on the carnivores' food. ↩
- Augustine's four solutions, enumerated by Pererius. Continues on p. 282. ↩
- Augustine's four solutions completed. ↩
- Margin: Cajetan on Genesis, ch. 6. ↩
- §104. Origen and Buteo's contrary view (real flesh-food carried in the Ark). Margins: Origen; John Buteo, in his book on Noah's Ark. ↩
- The first two of the three replies to Origen/Buteo. ↩
- §105. Pererius's preferred (third) reply begins. Continues on p. 283. ↩
- §105 (concluded): two senses of ‘natural’ — so a diet ‘natural’ now need not have been natural before the flood. NOTE: this page's running folio misprints ‘274’ for 214. ↩
- §106. Pererius's own position (no carnivore was carnivorous in the Ark), with the first of three arguments. Margins: Basil; Gen. 9. ↩
- The second argument (Scripture never mentions food-animals). Margins: Buteo; Gen. 6 & 7. ↩
- The third argument (the impracticality of a year's slaughter). Continues on p. 284. ↩